8 Diagrams

12/11/2007 | Motown 

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Review

Drama hung heavily over the heads of Wu-Tang Clan as the iconic hip-hop collective prepared to end a six-year studio silence with 8 Diagrams—their first group outing since the death of charismatic oddball Ol' Dirty Bastard. Clan members took potshots at each other in the press (with producer/ringleader RZA bearing the brunt of the complaints) and, as always, solo stardom threatened to derail the original "all for one, one for all" ideology that made the New Yorkers stand out against the star-studded gangsta glorification of West Coast rap in the early-to-mid-'90s. Once cutting-edge, Wu-Tang are now old-school, and 8 Diagrams is eclectic, but somewhat predictable in its strangeness. There are the myriad martial arts references, space-funk beats and that inimitable smorgasbord of rappers and personalities who pay more attention to flow than hype.

RZA's challenging production pushes 8 Diagrams away from the territory being tapped into on all the solo albums. "Take It Back" and "Get Them Out Ya Way Pa" both strut aggressively, with classic hip-hop beats supporting confident, patient verses. "Unpredictable" ups the ante with a more frantic arrangement, and also marks one of the several convergences between RZA and the electric guitar. There's a little too much singing and softness in the album's latter half; even the sentimental closer "Life Changes," while containing some poignant verses about the untimely death of ODB, doesn't sink its restrained hooks in very deep.

Of all the Wu-Tang members, Ghostface Killah receives the most plaudits, thanks to his consistent solo output, the 2006 critical homerun Fishscale and, let's be honest, the best name of the bunch. His signature whine slices through a number of memorable tracks here, not quite matching Fishscale's intensity, but still marking him as a deserving A-lister. Raekwon and especially Method Man serve notice that the spotlight still needs to be shared and that Wu-Tang, for all the individual success, remains a formidable collective.

—Adam McKibbin
12.18.07

All Music Guide Review

With anticipation so high it caused debate not only among fans but among the group itself, Wu-Tang Clan's fifth studio record, 8 Diagrams, found itself at the center of attention as 2007 wound down. First there was the announcement of the successful obtainment of the Beatles' "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" sample (which was later corrected to "interpolation," as it was actually played by Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante with help from George Harrison's son, a Wu enthusiast himself, Dhani). Then Raekwon did a highly publicized online interview in which he accused the RZA of taking a dictatorial stance regarding the shape of the album, calling him a "hip-hop hippie" who was moving the Clan in the wrong direction. Then Ghostface Killah followed suit, also protesting the timing of the release (it had been set for December 4, the same day The Big Doe Rehab was to come out, but was pushed back a week). Finally, RZA responded, diplomatically, thoughtfully, respecting the opinions of the dissenting MCs but standing by his own work.

There's reason for his confidence. Nothing RZA does is haphazard, and 8 Diagrams is clearly something he's put a lot of thought and energy into. It's beautifully, impeccably produced, from the soundtrack strings and horns of "Rushing Elephants" and "Unpredictable" to the philosophical samples and guitars that are interspersed throughout -- it's a mood record more than anything else, with no clear-cut single or fan favorites, the kind of thing that deepens and grows with every listen. Suffice it to say, it's probably not the album anyone would predict from the group after a six-year break, but it is truly RZA's crowning achievement, the result of both his years with the Wu and in Hollywood, intricate, dark, reflective, and gorgeous. These same qualities, however, can be used to support the less-than-enthusiastic response from Raekwon and Ghostface and fans of the early hard-hitting Wu-Tang of 36 Chambers (which, ironically -- or not -- was not the universally revered masterpiece it is now when it came out in 1993). The beats are certainly not something either usually raps over, and their moodiness and heavy attention to melody don't always fit their edgier flows. Still, both manage to contribute some pretty great verses -- Ghost on the Easy Mo Bee co-produced "Take It Back" ("We gonna have a ball/Might as well have a testicle") and "The Heart Gently Weeps," a song which also features the Chef at his finest, strange violent imagery and all -- and do nothing to discredit themselves, a repercussion Raekwon hinted at. In fact, all eight MCs are in fine form here. U-God, Masta Killa, and Inspectah Deck are able balance their old-school deliveries with the 23rd century beats, GZA is suitably genius-like ("Hold you for a ransom note/Goliath cutting David's throat/Grab your vests, abandon boat/And leave you out at sea to float," he spits on the excellent "Stick Me for My Riches"), RZA esoteric and serious (and the only one with a solo track, "Sunlight"), and Method Man absolutely great, showing up on no less than half the tracks, his raspy voice and tight rhymes reminiscent of his early Tical work.

8 Diagrams is certainly not perfect. There is far too much singing, particularly in the second half of the album, where things slow down considerably, which helps substantiate the criticism that's surrounded it: that it's too pretty, too soft. This is indeed a record that will be debated for a while, and one of the few about which pretty much everyone will be right, whether they love it or hate it. It is a departure from previous releases and it does focus on melody and guitars and strings, but it is also lush and well-crafted and smart and addictive. Part of what's made RZA (and the rest of the Clan) thrive is their unpredictability and inventiveness, and so to create something expected would be counterintuitive to the band's ethos, and to what's made them so revered and respected across nations and genres and generations. Hip-hop has indisputably changed since 1993, and for Wu-Tang to not change with it would be not only shortsighted, it would be detrimental to their own immense creative powers as well. Unfortunately, this doesn't mean everyone will appreciate what they've done, but that won't be because 8 Diagrams isn't good; it just depends if you're willing to (at least try to) understand it. ~ Marisa Brown, All Music Guide

User Review

  • Jay Lane

    posted on Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:38:03

    Quality , But Not Greatness

    Great Album over all that i think needed to be released right now to remind us that real rap still exists . Meth and Ghoastface really steal the spotlight with great tracks like "campfire" , "gun will go" , and "stick me for my ritches" . Gza has a great solo cut on "sunlight" that is a throw back to liquid swords. 75% of this record is tight , but for every solid track there was a dud. The first single "heart gently weeps" seems forced and confusing , and dosent follow the formula that it should. Other songs that where really missed with me where "wolves , and "starter" , they just didnt seem to belong.There is a solid 6-8 songs that WU should be proud to add to there already hall of fame catalouge .All in all great cd , but i think they needed to write more and that they really chould have taken more time to put together the album that we all know they can drop. I'd say 4 out of 5 . Quality , but not greatness.

  • Afi K. James

    posted on Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:15:04

    Wu-Tang is back in a Big Way with this one

    6 Years after the disastrous iron flag which sent their original fans packing, wu-tang is back with the vengence with this album and it is almost the best of the wu-tang series, I Disagree with ghostface calling it bulls*it, this is a very fine album with song very good songs from them and some of the best rapping ever, this is an album that will last a long time.

Track Listing

  • Track#
  • Title
  • time
  • 1
  • Campfire
  • 3:58

  • 2
  • Take It Back
  • 4:12

  • 5
  • Unpredictable
  • 4:11

  • 7
  • Wolves
  • 4:16

  • 8
  • Gun Will Go
  • 4:14

  • 9
  • Sunlight
  • 3:22

  • 11
  • Starter
  • 4:13

  • 12
  • Windmill
  • 4:31

  • 13
  • Weak Spot
  • 3:58

  • 14
  • Life Changes
  • 7:21

  • 15 (2)
  • Enter the 8 Diagrams (DVD)(*)
  • Credits

    • RZA
    • Guitar, Strings, Arranger, Producer, Mixing, Engineer, Programming


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